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Christmas Bird Count Drop-in for Compilers and Regional Editors - Shared screen with speaker view
Mike Azevedo
24:54
I like your owl. :)
emma bourassa
24:55
what a cool background, it looks like you are in a bubble :)
Chris Smith
25:04
hello from northern Manitoba
Lisa Clements
25:05
greetings
James Wheat
25:12
Hello Kathy and panelists!
Siobhan Ruck
25:38
Will there be a recording or transcript available later?
Siobhan Ruck
25:55
Thank you!
Bettina Eastman
26:00
where will that be posted?
Chris Smith
26:42
thanks for hosting this event
Bettina Eastman
27:00
Where will we be able to find the recording of this webinar>
James Wheat
27:20
I presume participants are all muted? I’m not seeing a way to ensure my mic/cam are muted.
Annie Dunn
29:44
Buffalo, Wyoming
Mike Unger
29:44
Keizer Oregon
Tonya Selby
29:44
Vernal, Utah! :)
Richard Bradley
29:46
Delaware Ohio
Claudia Egelhoff
29:47
From Minnesota!
Bruce Wilson
29:47
Barrie Ontario
Bettina Eastman
29:48
Southern California
Jane Jones
29:49
Austin, TX
John Ormiston
29:50
Hamilton Montana
emma bourassa
29:52
east kootenays bc
Rita St. Clair
29:53
Franklin, NC
Lisa Clements
29:54
greetings from alamosa, colorado
Joni Ciarletta
29:54
San Diego, CA
Michael Bochnik
29:54
Mike from Westchester County, NY
Joseph Moosbrugger
29:55
Hocking Hills Ohio
Nicholas Parr
29:56
Nick Parr, Florida DEP, Florida Keys
Vincent Smith
29:56
Valley Forge Audubon Society
Joan Peterson
29:56
Calling in from La Farge, Wisconsin!
Shawn Mason
29:57
Hi, Shawn from Whistler BC Canada
Richard Bielawski
29:57
Viewing from NH
Genelle Uhrig
29:57
Cumberland, OH
Susan Crockett
29:57
Gloucester VA
Phil Silas
29:58
No. Va.
Sue Kartman
29:59
Fifield, WI
Rexanne Bruno
30:01
Rexanne Bruno from Williamsburg VA
Mike Azevedo
30:01
San Jose CBC, California compiler
Karen Johnson
30:01
Karen Johnson - Milwaukee, WI
Ann Nightingale
30:03
BCVI Victoria, British Columbia
mike bishop
30:03
Mike Bishop - Alma, MI: LP
James Wheat
30:05
Good evening, I am James Wheat, Regional Editor for Kentucky CBCs.
Bev Schneider
30:09
Fredericton, NB
Charles Burwick
30:09
Charley Burwick, Springfield, Mo,
William Portlock
30:11
Virginia GWB CBC
Linda Foster
30:13
Jarvie Alberta
Charles Fisher
30:13
Charlie Fisher from Tampa FL is here!
Cheryl Johnson
30:14
Howdy from Mariposa, CA
Ruth Stewart
30:14
Joining from Vermont
Alison Sheehey
30:14
Alison Sheehey, Weldon, CA. Hi Geoff!
Richard Hoyer
30:17
Hi All, Rich Hoyer here from Eugene, OR, regional CBC editor for AZ, eBird reviewer since 2004 (not currently active as one).
Jaime Welfelt
30:17
from King Salmon, Alaska
Holly Kleindienst
30:19
Tucson, Arizona, Santa Catalina Mtn CBC
Bob Wells
30:19
Bob Wells Omaha, NE
Ricky Taylor
30:20
Edmonds, WA
Mark Pendleton
30:21
Mark Pendleton from las Cruces NM
Elizabeth Spinney
30:22
Joining from Burlington, VT - it’s our circle’s 74th CBC!
Joan Holt
30:25
I amk in Port Aransas, TX
Rick Johnson
30:27
Hi Rick Johnson here; Sequoia Audubon 2 CBCs in San Mateo County CA
Steve Langdon
30:30
Good Evening From Saranac Lake, NY in the Northern Adirondacks.
Rhonda Donley
30:30
I'm in Cochrane, Ontario Canada. I coordinate the Iroquois Falls, Ontario count.
Dianne Cooper
30:32
Hello from SE British Columbia Canada
Grace Fowler-Gore
30:37
Cottage Grove Oregon
Kenneth Burton
30:40
Hi, Yousif!!
Mary Freudenberg
30:41
Mary Freudenberg here from Brevard, NC Transylvania County.
Carolyn Bonta
30:41
Participating from Kingston, Ontario, Canada
Lucy Cairns
30:41
Do I need to download the Blank Field Form spreadsheet again this year, or is it unchanged over the last couple of years?
Reid Hildebrandt
30:41
Listening from Yellowknife, Northwest Territories!
Iris Davies
31:08
From Dewberry, AB, Canada count ABVE (Vermilion AB)
Sascha Matecki García
31:37
Sascha Matecki from Rancho Alemán in Ecuador, south America
Lucy Cairns
31:38
A longtime participant recently died. How do I edit the participant list in a case like this?
Yousif Attia
31:51
Long time, old friend!
Kathy Dale (she/her)
32:51
Hi Lucy - so sorry to hear this! There is a remove option to remove them from the list participant list.
Michael Sanders
33:12
Listening from Michigan
Ann Nightingale
33:43
Is there any way to allow all of us to see the questions and comments as they get asked? I can only see your responses.
Conrad Jason
34:43
have video ---audio off and on
Lucy Cairns
35:24
Will the deceased participant's name remain in the historical record?
Karen Johnson
35:51
Are recordings and/or pishing allowed?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
36:16
We had a question: How to remove a participant from the list in the CBC system. There is a "REM" remove column that can be used to tag them for removal from the list.
Bruce Wilson
36:26
I assume we can request proof of vaccination?
Josiah Boothe
36:33
Coming from Bitter Lake NWR Roswell, NM!!
Iain Wilkes
37:11
Howdy Yossef - good to put a face to a name - Iain Carleton Place On
Kathy Dale (she/her)
37:15
Question: Will the deceased participant's name remain in the historical record? Answer - yes
Annie Dunn
37:25
So, just to be clear re: the guidelines, can we pair non-pod folks as long as they wear masks in the car and when not socially distanced in the field?
Rebecca Kitto
37:31
My question is about how to record time and distance while driving.
Yousif Attia
37:41
Thanks Iain!
Jane Jones
38:06
I'm just curious...how many participants are on the call?
Vernon Johnson
38:07
Birds seen during count week but not on count day………….is that 3 days before and 3 days after the count day?
Rebecca Kitto
38:45
If a team has to drive a long distance from one spot to another within the sector, is that time/distance included? Or only if we are birding from the car?
emma bourassa
38:55
I am new to this. What are some common errors/omittances/oddities that I should be aware of?
Lucy Cairns
39:10
Please respond to my first question, about any updates to the blank field form. Thanks
Richard Bradley
39:10
I thought that it was OK to use recordings for Owling
Mike Azevedo
39:24
I saw a reference somewhere to “Community Bird Count” Are we supposed to use that instead of Audubon Christmas Bird Count?
Bettina Eastman
39:35
I would assume that would exclude pishing to or recordings being played to Endangered Species?!
Siobhan Ruck
39:46
For the San Francisco count, we asked people if they would share their vax status.
Siobhan Ruck
40:10
If they say no, we'll proceed as though they are not vaxed
Mike Azevedo
40:12
Am I hearing that we can’t owl using “tape”? Or that we can’t use tape to call up a sparrow in a bush that we haven’t seen?
Michael Callan
40:15
Might be careful about how you handle health information if you do ask for it. There are HIPPA laws to consider.
Michael Callan
41:03
I think vaccination status may be PHI
Ann Nightingale
41:16
Thank you for that clarification! That's been a lifelong question re: driving.
Chris Smith
42:35
regarding driving distance - if we record a different species on the return along the same road, do we add the distance on the return?
Bettina Eastman
42:43
Please make the clarification about not pishing to or playing recordings for Endangered Species!!!
Arrianne Byrum
42:49
Can I get an explanation on how the LC/HC designation should be used in compiling? I have been given conflicting information. I was taught it was based on relative trends in historic data for the circle (I have all previous years of our 40yo count in a binder), but some also say it just should indicated a record lowest count? The handbook is a little vague on this. Thank you :)
Alison Sheehey
42:52
How are CW species used statistically?
Kenneth Burton
42:59
I consider ANY time spent out of a vehicle, even when otherwise birding from a vehicle, as "foot time" because more birds can be detected out of the vehicle than in. Is this appropriate?
Siobhan Ruck
43:08
Meeting time is hard for west coast participants! I'm still at work and had to take "lunch" at 3:00pm to join.
Tom Ostrand
43:15
Are rare bird forms absolutely required for unusual sightings, or is it up to the regional editor whether they should be submitted?
janice hetzel
43:27
Can someone who is not a participant on count day, report a count week species?
Maria Dominguez
43:41
Where do I find the downloadable data sheet?
Iain Wilkes
43:43
what are the requirements for a species to require an RBA
Barbara Leo
43:44
Can my team have access to the new circle maps to plot their routes….which I have assigned?
Michael Callan
43:45
All that is to say I wouldn’t advocate that compliers ask for written verification of participants vaccination status or copies of people’s vaccination cards, but Audubon should probably do some research on this and then disseminate to the compilers.
Larry Cartwright
43:48
Are playbacks okay when owling? Within reason of course.
Donna Cooper
43:52
What is done with CW if it is reorded as zero?
Karen Mammone
43:55
Where is that downloading spreadsheet. I am also new to being a compiler this year.
Josiah Boothe
44:10
Is there a list of rare and unusual bird species?
Ezra Parker
44:11
Presumably the use of audio playback is not discouraged/disallowed for owling, correct?
Michael Callan
44:15
Disseminate guidance* to the compilers
Janet Millenson
44:20
What if a good bird is seen inside your sector on the day of the count by someone who's NOT on your CBC team? Some compilers like to "harvest" eBird postings.
Angie Williams
44:24
What is the reason for (or use of) the count week species records?
Laura Lara
44:33
More of a long term question and difficult in a COVID year, can defer answering for later: Our count is multicultural, multilingual and has BIPOC participants and we want to do outreach to bring more people into the count who historically haven’t been sufficiently included in this scientific field. If anyone else is working on something similar or hoping to, I would like to touch base with you. I’m the Wabasha count circle leader.
Ann Nightingale
44:42
Will we ever be able to upload our participant list?
Ricky Taylor
44:45
With the split/name change of Mew Gull to Short-billed & Common Gull, do I have to add Short-billed Gull to the species list?
Bettina Eastman
45:12
Is there any way for us to upload our own tally sheet, (one that is actually in current AOS order!!!!) to the portol, thereby making it easier to enter our data?
Elizabeth Spinney
45:32
for adding participants, are we required to include an email address, or can a participant be entered just by name? Some people are hesitant to provide personal information without knowing how it’s being used.
Jane Jones
46:11
when is documentation required?
Tom Ostrand
46:17
How can we notify you of mistakes that were made in submitted data of past years? I did this several months ago, and haven’t gotten any confirmation that you received it, or acted on it.
Ann Nightingale
46:21
Getting the participants to understand party-hours and party-distance concept is the toughest part of compiling. Addressing questionable IDs is the next hardest.
emma bourassa
46:23
Thanks!
Donna Cooper
46:45
if you have a crow roost, do you NOT add crows seen elsewhere in the circle?
Iain Wilkes
46:48
explain min and max parties - what criteria is used
Susan Foster
46:55
Why isn’t the species total automatic?
Jane Jones
46:59
Should we count exotics/domestics?
Shawn Mason
47:01
Hours entered -we have 2 counters on the ski hills and the are give early access to the mountain. They actually do exceed the permitted hours. Do I just put in the max hrs allowed?
Cynthia Ehlinger
47:45
How are hybrids counted in species total?
mike bishop
48:00
If data are lost for an entire sector or part of a sector is there a specific protocol to deal with that?
Holly Kleindienst
48:06
Is there any inkling that the database will be updated to a more usable format in years ahead? :D Just curious….
Bettina Eastman
48:09
It's ILLEGAL to use recordings for Endangered Species!!1
Richard Hoyer
48:09
New compilers are often confused about how to make a correct species count, double counting subspecies and "sp." when they shouldn't
Alison Sheehey
48:17
It is a take using recordings on Endangered Species.
Bruce Wilson
48:19
we get a number of Black Duck x Mallard hybrids. Do we just note them on our list or ignore them?
Peter Hamel
48:28
When will you add 'sea state' to the field surveys
Robert Clark
49:03
Use of recordings for owling? Didn't get answered.
Rich Del Carlo
49:09
I find the portal to not be user friendly. Is there a revamp in the works. Sandpoint, Idaho
JANICE JORGENSEN
49:44
Repeat that distance again
Marc Ribaudo
49:45
Can count week birds be gleaned from ebird lists not submitted by count participants?
Jay Carroll
49:47
Is there some procedure for making corrections to our historical counts?
James Wheat
49:48
Please encourage compilers to reach out to Regional Editors for any further questions outside this presentation! We are happy to help!
JANICE JORGENSEN
49:50
So only count one way
Sally Waterhouse
50:27
There was an additional recording question about owling particularly
Alison Sheehey
51:25
Rare birds can be rare on one count and common on the neighboring count. Depends on habitat.
Wayne Brehaut
51:37
should I wait till next part of the webinar for eBird questions?
Richard Hoyer
52:08
Most rare bird reports include time, date, location, species reported, etc but forget the most important part: the description of the bird.
Kenneth Burton
53:16
I use HC and LC for anything (including effort) that falls more than one SD outside the previous mean.
Arrianne Byrum
53:27
thank you!!
Peter Hamel
53:38
should bird parties report their sightings for the day to the compilers first before going to ebird? It's confusing otherwise if parties go directly to ebird compilers have difficulty knowing the total for the day
David Govoni
54:30
FYI “Rare Bird” — We stress capturing habitats exact location, and behavior in addition to the ‘usual’ descriptions of appearance.
Susan Foster
54:38
Please make species total automatic as I mess up here annually.
Eileen Schwinn
55:04
How about using eBird sightings on Count Day in your Circle, but not signed up on your participants?
Susan Foster
55:20
Nice background, Ian. 🙂
Kathy Dale (she/her)
55:30
Hi Susan - I wish we could make the species total automatic - that will require new funding, which we are working on!
Tom Ostrand
56:05
What about an ebird report from someone who has not been “officially” part of the count? We have several excellent, very reliable birders who never participate in the count, but they’re out there during the count day.
Susan Foster
56:13
Thanks, Kathy.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
56:24
Hi Eileen - if the person who submits the data to eBird is not a pre-arranged participant, those data cannot be included in the CBC data.
Ian Davies
56:35
https://ebird.org/news/ebirding-on-christmas-bird-counts
James Wheat
56:35
Ian and Marshall: For invited eBirders who might drop a checklist on count day outside the count circle (e.g., on the way to their assigned area), who can hide/remove it from the Trip Report? The Trip Report Owner? A Commenter, if they submitted the checklist? Both?
Bettina Eastman
57:17
Endangered species are protected Nationally, so, I'm not quite sure why there would be a question about it being ILLEGAL to play tapes for endanger species!!! If Audubon Can't enforce this, who can!?
Alison Sheehey
57:42
List of all California CBCs scheduled so far. Too many not listing on the Audubon site. https://www.natureali.org/cbcs.htm
Kathy Dale (she/her)
57:53
Hi Tom - if those observers report in eBird but are not part of pre-arranged CBC participants, then those data cannot be included. Maybe a opportunity to recruit them?
James Wheat
58:09
Pro tip: Make sure you note time and distance (foot, car, etc.) in the Comments section of your eBird checklists for your CBC!
Ezra Parker
58:13
For the eBird Team: the new Trip Reports look to be a very helpful feature for compilers, but I am wondering if there are any plans to add functionality to export trip report data, ideally to Excel or CSV format. I ask because I have written a custom application to automatically import and compile structured spreadsheet data, and I currently use a third-party application from Kent Fiala (https://www.faintlake.com/eBird/compiler/) to create aggregated spreadsheets from multiple eBird checklists.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:00:08
Hi Jennifer - We understand that the CBC portal needs an update and we are currently looking for funding for that.
Marshall Iliff
01:00:38
Good question Ezra. The Trip Reports are very exciting and it is worth remembering that this is version 1. We try to iterate and improve on most functionality that we build in eBird, as adding a CSV download is almost certain to be in a version 2. We are definitely thinking about that as something that will be very useful for the 2022-2023 CBC season.
Bettina Eastman
01:00:43
Where do we keep the party hours, and effort on eBird?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:01:07
Hi Jay - for corrections to historical counts, email the CBC mailbox with the details of what needs to be corrected and we will do that for you.
Marshall Iliff
01:02:06
Thanks for the question Bettina. Party hours and effort are not currently automatically tallied (but could be a future feature…though would need to be used with caution). Our current recommendation is to keep track of these as you normally would and enter the effort on the left side, just as Ian is showing in this Truro CBC example now...
Alison Sheehey
01:02:27
I created a gmail account, solely for the count. I have all sector leaders share their checklist with that account which is used on one day only. Great way to stay socially distanced.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:02:47
Hi Sue - re updating the CBC taxonomy to match eBird - we are working on a plan to fund an upgrade to our technology, which is what will be needed to update the taxonomy.
Richard Bradley
01:02:59
So I’m confused did he need to “log in” the effort data for the trip report, or was it generated by eBird from the check-lists?
Tom Ostrand
01:03:13
Thanks Kathy. I was really thinking about only an unusual sighting by a non-participant. We actually had this happen a couple of years ago (Glaucous Gull in central NJ, seen only by one of these guys).
Yousif Attia
01:03:41
Ideally, participants will tally their effort and include it in the narrative for their area or section.
Joni Ciarletta
01:03:54
The trip reports are grouped for a given ebird user? Can you link trip reports for multiple users? (ie if you have sub-teams).
Bettina Eastman
01:03:56
HOw did he combined the lists ? did
Angie Williams
01:04:07
Can you now upload media on the mobile app?
Marshall Iliff
01:04:23
Richard Bradley, the eBird Trip Reports do not automatically capture effort data. However, remember that eBird Mobile is a really easy way to use TRACKS in eBird Mobile to record precise distance (removing backtracking of course) and that can be really useful for calculating miles on foot or miles by car.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:04:23
Hello Mike RE: The name of the program remains Christmas Bird Count, but we are exploring a long-term effort to make updates to the program, including making the program more inclusive.
Peter Hamel
01:04:42
Not all participants are computer literate, this just makes everything more confusing
Richard Hoyer
01:04:58
Just three, Ian?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:05:53
Karen - the downloadable field form is available through your reports menu in the compiler portal. You have to reformat the form however.
Richard Bradley
01:05:59
If you send a link to your trip report to the compiler, does he/she need to be an eBirder to see the data
Marshall Iliff
01:06:57
Joni Ciarletta, Trip Reports can summarize checklists from multiple people. However, they have been designed for a single PARTY. So think about using trip reports just like we calculate “party hours” for CBCs. One Trip Report per party.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:07:16
Josiah - To find out which species are considered rare in your area - consult your regional editor.
Yousif Attia
01:07:17
Hi Peter Hamel., these tool are available for those who find them helpful. You are welcome to compile using the same methods that have been working for you.
Bettina Eastman
01:07:28
Would there be an advantage for the compiler to create this and send the link out to the counters? Or, does that make it impossible to check for duplicates, etc.
Dianne Cooper
01:07:42
What? repeat about double-counting, please.
Marshall Iliff
01:07:47
Sue Killeen, if someone else “joins” your trip, then their shared checklist versions will be included. This can be important especially when people might delete a species off their version of a list.
Richard Herder
01:07:56
How can eBird help produce a sector report for a sector with multiple parties. Our party reports go to the sector lead, not the compiler directly.
Rich Del Carlo
01:08:07
Is there a distance limit on the trip report
Alan Burger
01:08:16
In Trip Reports how does one select the areas and checklists to include
Marshall Iliff
01:08:21
Rich De Carlo, there is no distance limit of Trip Reports.
Lawrence Gardella
01:08:28
Can we edit the eBird trip report to enter the actual miles (if we repeat one area, for example) and to eliminate the doubled birds
Lucy Cairns
01:08:42
How do other party members connect to the team leaders trip report?
Kevin Brady
01:08:44
Can a trip report be sorted in the same order that Audubon requires?
Iain Wilkes
01:09:06
are there instructions on how to connect indvidiual checklists to the trip report
Mark Johnson
01:09:10
How do we pass on names in a party/Sector?
Sara G
01:09:20
I see the option to add people to the report. Is that how you combine all the people in different parts of your sector?
Marshall Iliff
01:09:29
Kevin Brady, please see Kathy Dale’s response above: the CBC taxonomy (and sequence) is not yet updated to match eBird and not yet updated to match the latest AOS sequence.
Joan Holt
01:09:29
As a compiler can I do a trip report of several submitted trip report
Joni Ciarletta
01:09:35
So the trip report goes by dates? If an ebird list is submitted by the user for something outside of the circle, will it pull that data too? Or does it know based on location?
Mike Unger
01:09:48
So how is this different than using eBird Trip Summary. Does the trip report tie together all parties in a sector vs. just one party with the Trip summary.
Medea Steinman
01:10:03
How should we capture birds sighted BETWEEN bird locations?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:10:04
Hi Holly - re: updating the CBC database - we are working on a plan to raise the needed funding to make those upgrades.
George Gibbs
01:10:09
When Ian says that compilers can summarize trip reports, is that a manual calculation or something eBird generates?
Medea Steinman
01:10:11
bird locations
Tyson Kahler
01:10:16
Trip Reports sound awesome! Does eBird trip reports duplicate sightings if checklists are shared in a party?
Wayne Brehaut
01:10:17
Can the eBird checklist be edited to include just those species likely to be observed or must one scroll through the whole list each time?
Medea Steinman
01:10:37
EBIRD locations—stupid autocorrect.
Annie Dunn
01:10:50
Could you please touch on how to use eBird when off the grid? Thank you.
Medea Steinman
01:11:13
Should I keep a separate paper list of birds seen while driving from one location to another and enter in ebird later?
Donna Cooper
01:11:14
Once I create a trip report, how do I add individual stops into the trip?
Stephen Knox
01:11:16
New this year we will have road team along a river as well as canoe on water. These are different parties but double counting will probably happen. How to resolve?
Evan Mann
01:11:17
Prior to the introduction of trip reports some of us following your direction set up group accounts to facilitate compilation. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each?
Bettina Eastman
01:11:19
Can we cull from all lists that were submitted to eBird on a given count day, provided they were within the Count Circle?
Marshall Iliff
01:11:20
Tyson, Trip reports DO NOT double-count birds on shared copies of lists. A shared checklist is treated as a bird count from one party in eBird and thus counted only once.
Stephen Knox
01:11:26
Thanks, Steve Knox
Wayne Bell
01:11:39
Is there a provision for downloading a trip report to a spreadsheet? Is there a provision for emailing a trip report summary to participants who may not have an eBird account? The IOS app has had the emailing capability but it does not exist on Android apps nor on the web page.
Marshall Iliff
01:12:16
Tyson, Trip reports DO NOT double-count birds on shared copies of lists. A shared checklist is treated as a bird count from one party in eBird and thus counted only once.
Alison Sheehey
01:12:19
It helps if participants note if they believe they recorded the flock multiple times. As compiler I always use my extensive knowledge of status and distribution.
Eileen Schwinn
01:12:55
Can Compiler “join” all the eBird Trip Reports received?
Alison Sheehey
01:12:59
Can these trip reports be created in eBird mobile? I am not seeing it.
Marshall Iliff
01:13:01
Kevin Brady, please see Kathy Dale’s response above: the CBC taxonomy (and sequence) is not yet updated to match eBird and not yet updated to match the latest AOS sequence.
Michael Hobbs
01:13:02
If a sector leader shares his checklists with sector participants, and one of those participants adds a species, will that show up in the Trip Report?
Thomas Manley
01:13:21
Is it a mistake to use roads as sector boundaries in that double coverage is likely or certainly at risk? To Hanley
Marshall Iliff
01:13:55
Rich De Carlo, there is no distance limit of Trip Reports.
Michael Callan
01:14:05
Maybe send out a text or to the compilation participants/section leaders to say where high visibility birds are as you’re looking at them e.g. “I’m seeing a flock of 200 Sandhills near x at 12:15” is anyone else able to see these birds? and let everyone know so if anyone else is seeing the same 200 from another location then they can reply and say oh I see those too and then there’s a record of it so they aren’t double counted.
Mike Unger
01:14:35
How is this different than the current TRip Summary in eBird???
Bettina Eastman
01:14:42
I don't see a response from Kathy Dale?
Marshall Iliff
01:15:05
Sue Killeen, if someone else “joins” your trip, then their shared checklist versions will be included. This can be important especially when people might delete a species off their version of a list.
Elizabeth Spinney
01:15:21
Is the instruction the same as last year, that if, due to covid, a team is not traveling together that would normally travel together, that still counts as a single party?
Jane Jones
01:15:28
Can you do the same area twice during the same day - say once in the morning and once in the afternoon?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:15:38
Hi Bettina - could you repeat your question - we have LOTS of questions and I may have overlooked your question. Thanks!
Michael Callan
01:15:48
Want to be sure you’re driving within the circle at the time.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:16:24
The COVID guidelines for all compilers can be found here: https://www.audubon.org/news/christmas-bird-count-compiler-announcements
Ann Nightingale
01:17:09
I've been using eBird for our counts for a few years and have secondary accounts to which counters share to accumulate the results, which I then download and massage. It's a little tricky, but can work if you are geeky enough. The Trip Reports will make this a little easier for the non-geeks among us.
Yousif Attia
01:17:16
Jane, Jones, This is generally acceptable as long as you are careful not to count the same individual birds more than once and keep track of your effort.
Marshall Iliff
01:17:29
Jane Jones, eBird trip reports and CBC protocol definitely allow you to visit the same spot twice. You just need to be extra careful about double counting and maybe you would submit an “incomplete” list for eBird in that situation and just report birds that are definitely new.
Tyson Kahler
01:18:14
Why does Android Ebird mobile not have trip report feature?
Rick Johnson
01:18:21
I use the API to download CBC participant checklists. Do many people do that? Can the trip reports be downloaded through the API? Can I email with any specific questions on the API?
James Wheat
01:18:23
Repeat: For invited eBirders who might drop a checklist on count day outside the count circle (e.g., on the way to their assigned area), who can hide/remove it from the Trip Report? The Trip Report Owner? A Commenter, if they submitted the checklist? Both?
Alison Sheehey
01:18:56
Marshall, are incomplete lists counted in the S&D statistics for ebird?
Joan Holt
01:19:13
how can a compiler most effectively use these trip reports?
William Boeh
01:19:21
So there will be a Trip Report for each hotspot within your circle?
Charles Fisher
01:19:29
It looks great. Thank you for that additional functionality! Much appreciated.
Iain Wilkes
01:20:09
how does ebird know a checklist belongs to a specific trip report. how is the connection made
Richard Bradley
01:20:11
Just in case you don’t know it … we are THRILLED that you have created this feature! It is wonderful!
Rick Johnson
01:20:11
I think the trip report is great. Thanks.
William Boeh
01:20:12
For your Trip Report, is "Truro" the circle name?
emma bourassa
01:20:13
Thank you for your effort. I will review again. such an important contribution.
Norman Budnitz
01:20:13
Did I understand this correctly? The effort data for each individual checklist do not get added to the trip report. Those effort data must be added later by the person submitting the trip list.
Ian Davies
01:20:22
https://ebird.org/news/ebirding-on-christmas-bird-counts
Bettina Eastman
01:20:44
Thanks Kathy, I had asked a questions earlier about adding our checklist (the one we provide our participants) to the Audubon portal so that the list would be in AOS order and current. Is this possible? then, Marshall added this to the chat; Kevin Bradly, please see Kathy Dale's response above: the CBC taxonomy (and sequence) is not yet updated to match the lat3est AOS sequence.-- Entering data in the old portal has taken us 5-7 hours to complete because of the incredibly antiquated list! I read somewhere something that made me believe we could upload our list and use it when entering our data to the portal, is that possible?
Alison Sheehey
01:20:52
I already download a CSV spreadsheet for the ebird account and that is how I compile most of the CBC.
Geoff LeBaron (he/him)
01:21:05
Seeing the questions about hybrids and exotics--they should definitely be tallied as individuals on your counts, but they won't count toward the species total. When an introduced species becomes established and is considered "countable" in a state/province, then it will count toward the species total.
Geoff LeBaron (he/him)
01:21:15
And Hybrids don't count toward the species total.
Ann Nightingale
01:21:47
Can Audubon use the same taxonomy as eBird? There was a lot of jumping around last year to get everything entered.
Medea Steinman
01:22:03
I will be asking my counters to NOT send me their Triup Reports but encouraging them to use it for their own convenience. It won’t be helpful to me because I’ll still have to copy that data over into my master sheet. To save me time and effort I am having my sector leaders send me a Google sheet with their list and time/effort info. The I can easily add to my master Sheet and use formulas to calculate totals. I don’t see Trip Reports reducing my workload on the back end.
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:22:35
HI Bettina - ok, thanks. Yes, we do know that the CBC portal needs a major upgrade and we are working on a plan to raise the funds to do that. We cannot update the taxonomy until we upgrade the database. And we don't currently have an upload feature. But we appreciate your concerns.
Eileen Schwinn
01:22:38
How does one start a TripReport? Do we enter under Submit, or is there a different tab? And to view, as compiler, a report that is shared, must the Compiler Accept (as you would do with a birding partner after a trip, which adds the data to your stats)
Susan Crockett
01:22:39
Where is the ovenbird in snow??!!
Mary Jefferson
01:22:50
During data entry I find the inclusions of subspecies to be a confusing aspect and generaly unhelpful.
Dianne Cooper
01:22:51
or just use "number space - start typing full bird name or four letter code" some people aren't aware of this.
Beth Lancaster
01:23:01
Is eBird Mobile the App?
Mike Unger
01:23:04
Thanks. This has been very helpful.
Marshall Iliff
01:23:06
Ian’s snowy Overnbird was in Global Big Day in Ithaca two years ago! Not December!!!
Marshall Iliff
01:23:14
He’s a cheater using that image!
emma bourassa
01:23:21
Thank you all
Marshall Iliff
01:23:26
eBird Mobile = eBird app
Rich Del Carlo
01:23:29
Would you please reiterate the statement about eBird mobile
Bettina Eastman
01:23:36
THanks so much, I'm not sure what I was reading in the Compiler information that made it sound like we could upload our own checklist. Thanks for the clarification
Marshall Iliff
01:23:40
Free download on for iOS and Android
Michael Callan
01:23:55
So for logging birds I see driving between stops, I usually start an incidental list that isn’t using GPS - that I leave open the whole day until I’m done or take a break for lunch. (I use my odometer to track miles driven) and while I cant give my full attention to birding I will put any birds I see between stops that I don’t capture at one of the stops on that list. I should count all that driving time (that I compute by subtracting the sum the time birding on foot from the total time birding). Now my question is whether since it’s an incomplete list, maybe not all that time should count towards the driving effort, because I’m not able to try to observe every bird.
Poo Wright-Pulliam
01:23:57
Can a new count circle still be started this year?
Peter Hamel
01:24:19
Hang in there Kathy! Margo & Peter
Marshall Iliff
01:24:22
Find Trip Reports from My eBird…check the panel on the left side. It’s super easy and intuitive.
Stephen Knox
01:24:30
Steve Knox: How to solve two-party observations, one from the river road, the other on the water.
Marshall Iliff
01:24:35
See also the front page story right under the CBC story on birds homepage at ebird.org
Bettina Eastman
01:25:00
can you add your emails to the chat ?
Beth Lancaster
01:25:07
will a recording of this be available?
Kathy Dale (she/her)
01:25:12
CBC email is cbcadmin@audubon.org
Bettina Eastman
01:25:23
thanks Kathy!!
Yousif Attia
01:25:25
Canadian specific CBC@birdscanada.org
Alison Sheehey
01:25:26
An old count is gone from the ebird portal and wondering if it can be resurrected still?
Poo Wright-Pulliam
01:25:39
very good, thank youGeoff
Alison Sheehey
01:25:41
CBC portal not ebird
Rich Del Carlo
01:25:43
Thank you!
janice hetzel
01:25:44
Can you start a trip report on ebird mobile? Can’t find it.
Marshall Iliff
01:25:45
Michael Callan, for all day driving lists of Incidentals, that’s OK but we probably would want that entered at the county-level in eBird, since it is a very coarse location and not up to our site-specific standards for science grade data...
Siobhan Ruck
01:25:50
Thank you!
Bettina Eastman
01:25:55
Thanks, Great Information!!!
Bev Schneider
01:25:55
Pls mention the two addresses we need to go to to start recording our data after the count
Dianne Cooper
01:25:58
Excellent! Thank you!
Shelia Hargis
01:26:00
Thank you!
Cheryl Johnson
01:26:01
Thank you all!
Marshall Iliff
01:26:01
Trip reports are started from ebird.org…not the app
Elizabeth Spinney
01:26:01
thank you all
Anne McCormack
01:26:01
Thanks everyone—very helpful!
Lucy Cairns
01:26:01
thanks to all of you -- this has been helpful.
yvonne vaillancourt
01:26:02
Thank you, this was great!
Ann Turney
01:26:02
Thannk youo
Iain Wilkes
01:26:04
thx you all
Wayne Brehaut
01:26:05
TYSM!